no one wants to help this ok. whats the problem some kind of feed back is needed.

by jcnewman83 on July 12, 2010 at 12:51PM We must restore the fundamental necessities and environmental awareness of the species through the advocation of the most current understandings of who and what we truly are, coupled with how science, nature and technology (rather than religion, politics and money) hold the keys to our personal growth, not only as individual human beings, but as a civilization, both structurally and spiritually. The central insights of this awareness is the recognition of the Emergent and Symbiotic elements of natural law and how aligning with these understandings as the bedrock of our personal and social institutions, life on earth can and will flourish into a system which will continuously grow in a positive way, where negative social consequences, such as social stratification, war, biases, elitism and criminal activity will be constantly reduced and, idealistically, eventually become nonexistent within the spectrum of human behavior itself.

This possibility is, of course, very difficult for most humans to consider, for we have been conditioned by society to think that crime, corruption and dishonesty is "the way it is" and that there will always be people who want to abuse, hurt and take advantage of others. Religion is the largest promoter of this propaganda, for the "us and them" or "good and evil" mentality promotes this false assumption.

The reality is that we live in a society that produces Scarcity. The consequence of this scarcity is that human beings must behave in self preserving ways, even if it means they have to cheat and steal in order to get what they want. There has been research that has concluded that Scarcity is one of the most fundamental causes of aberrant human behavior, while also leading to complex forms of neurosis in other ways. A statistical look at drug addiction, crime and incarceration statistics, finds that poverty and unhealthy social conditions comprise the life experience of those who engage in such behavior.

Human beings are not good or bad... they are running, forever changing compositions of the life experience(s) that influences them. The "quality" of a human being ( if there was such a thing ) is directly related to the upbringing and thus belief systems they have been conditioned into.

This simple reality has been grossly overlooked and today people primitively think that competition, greed and corruption are "hardwired" elements of human behavior and, in turn, we must have prisons, police and hence a hierarchy of differential control in order for society to deal with these "tendencies". This is totally illogical and false.

The bottom line is that in order to change things for the better fundamentally, you must begin to address root causes. Our current society's system of "punishment" is outmoded, inhumane, and unproductive. When a serial killer is caught, most people jump up and down and scream for the death of that person. This is backwards. A truly sane society, which understands what we are and how our value systems are created, would take the individual and learn the reasons behind his or her violent actions. This information would then go to a research department which considers how to stop such conditions from occurring through education.

It is time to stop the patchwork. It is time to begin a new social approach which is updated to present day knowledge. Sadly, society today is still largely based on outmoded, superstitious dispositions and resolutions.

It is also important to point out that there are no utopias or endings. All evidence points to perpetual change on all levels. In turn, it is our personal actions everyday of our lives that mold and perpetuate the social systems we have in place. Yet, paradoxically, it is also our environmental influences which create our perspectives and hence world views. Therefore, true change will come not only from adjusting your personal understandings and decisions, but equally from changing the social structures that influence these understandings and decisions.

The elite power systems are little affected in the long run by traditional protest and political movements. We must move beyond these 'establishment rebellions' and work with a tool much more powerful:
We must stop supporting the system, while constantly advocating knowledge, peace, unity and compassion. We cannot "fight the system". Hate, anger and the 'war' mentality are failed means for change, for they perpetuate the same tools the corrupt, established power systems use to maintain control to begin with.

How the idea could be implemented
Once we understand that the integrity of our personal existences are directly related to the integrity of the earth, life and all other human beings, we then have our path predefined for us. In turn, once we realise that it is science, technology and hence human creativity which creates progress in our lives, we are then able to recognise what our true priorities are for social and personal growth and progress. These points denoted, we can then see that Religion, Politics and the Money/Competition based Labor system are outdated modes of social operation, which must now be addressed and outgrown. Our avocation is to achieve a social system which operates without money or politics, while allowing superstition to work itself out as education flourishes. It isn't the right of any person to tell another what to believe, for no human has a full understanding of anything. However, if we pay attention to the natural processes of life, we then see how we can align with nature and thus our path becomes more clear.

For example, many people are worried about population growth on the planet, while very spooky comments by despotic figures like Henry Kissinger claim that some kind of "reduction" is needed. This is, of course, very scary. However, the real question remains: Is population growth really that bad? The answer is that from a scientific perspective the earth can handle many, many times more people if need be, once high technology is harnessed. 70% of our planet is water and cities in the sea ( one of many projects by Jacque Fresco ) are the next step. In turn, education about life operations will inform people as to the ramifications of their reproductive interests and population growth will naturally slow as people begin to realise how they are related to the planet and its carrying capacity.

In fact, the only true "government" that can possibly exist is the earth and its resources. From there, all possibilities can be assessed. This is why an intellectual unification of all countries is needed, for the most important information we as a species can have is a full, highly detailed assessment of what we have on this planet. Just as you would examine the land and resources of an acre of land to see what you could do or grow on it, this is what needs to happen with the planet in order to optimize what we are capable of as a species, resource wise.

Of course, many who consider the ideas presented above will often ask: "How can we do this considering the distorted value systems which are currently in operation.? How do we make such a move or transition?" This is, of course, the most difficult question. The answer: We have to start somewhere. There are many things that can be done by a single person or community that can begin to shape this vision. The most important step is education.

What are you looking for here? It's just a page stating what we all know. This group is for making change. Yours doesn't propose the correct changes. As long as you keep money, taxes and other corruptible systems of slavery involved you will have the same issues.

I did, however, leave a link to Atlas on the site so an alternative view can be sought.

ChaseD702 wrote:
What are you looking for here? It's just a page stating what we all know. This group is for making change. Yours doesn't propose the correct changes. As long as you keep money, taxes and other corruptible systems of slavery involved you will have the same issues.

I did, however, leave a link to Atlas on the site so an alternative view can be sought.

Is this site for a resource based economy then vote for it .

Yes, its a resource based economy. Your plan proposes keeping money, taxes, et cetera, with no realistic way of transitioning, no reason for me to vote when I'm against taxes, against money, and I don't stand for any corruptible system of slavery.

JoshStrobl wrote:
Yes, its a resource based economy. Your plan proposes keeping money, taxes, et cetera, with no realistic way of transitioning, no reason for me to vote when I'm against taxes, against money, and I don't stand for any corruptible system of slavery. AND YOU ALSO CANT READ

please highlite where it says keeping taxes money it does NOT.

Our avocation is to achieve a social system which operates without money or politics,

ChaseD702 wrote:
What are you looking for here? It's just a page stating what we all know. This group is for making change. Yours doesn't propose the correct changes. As long as you keep money, taxes and other corruptible systems of slavery involved you will have the same issues.

I did, however, leave a link to Atlas on the site so an alternative view can be sought.

WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT WE WANT TO KEEP MONEY READ IT ALL.

How the idea could be implemented
Once we understand that the integrity of our personal existences are directly related to the integrity of the earth, life and all other human beings, we then have our path predefined for us. In turn, once we realise that it is science, technology and hence human creativity which creates progress in our lives, we are then able to recognise what our true priorities are for social and personal growth and progress. These points denoted, we can then see that Religion, Politics and the Money/Competition based Labor system are outdated modes of social operation, which must now be addressed and outgrown. Our avocation is to achieve a social system which operates without money or politics, while allowing superstition to work itself out as education flourishes. It isn't the right of any person to tell another what to believe, for no human has a full understanding of anything. However, if we pay attention to the natural processes of life, we then see how we can align with nature and thus our path becomes more clear.

Ironically, your above link that DID mention taxes and money is now not functional. The site seems to have completely changed, actually. My comments mentioning Atlas are also now no where to be found. Seems like a spam, which is likely to be deleted from this forum if proper information is not given soon.

the site is having tech problems if you read .

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ChaseD702 wrote:
Ironically, your above link that DID mention taxes and money is now not functional. The site seems to have completely changed, actually. My comments mentioning Atlas are also now no where to be found. Seems like a spam, which is likely to be deleted from this forum if proper information is not given soon.


How the idea could be implemented
Once we understand that the integrity of our personal existences are directly related to the integrity of the earth, life and all other human beings, we then have our path predefined for us. In turn, once we realise that it is science, technology and hence human creativity which creates progress in our lives, we are then able to recognise what our true priorities are for social and personal growth and progress. These points denoted, we can then see that Religion, Politics and the Money/Competition based Labor system are outdated modes of social operation, which must now be addressed
and
Our avocation is to achieve a social system which operates without money or politics

outgrown while allowing superstition to work itself out as education flourishes. It isn't the right of any person to tell another what to believe, for no human has a full understanding of anything. However, if we pay attention to the natural processes of life, we then see how we can align with nature and thus our path becomes more clear



How the idea could be implemented
Once we understand that the integrity of our personal existences are directly related to the integrity of the earth, life and all other human beings, we then have our path predefined for us. In turn, once we realise that it is science, technology and hence human creativity which creates progress in our lives, we are then able to recognise what our true priorities are for social and personal growth and progress. These points denoted, we can then see that Religion, Politics and the Money/Competition based Labor system are outdated modes of social operation, which must now be addressed and Our avocation is to achieve a social system which operates without money or politics,
outgrown while allowing superstition to work itself out as education flourishes. It isn't the right of any person to tell another what to believe, for no human has a full understanding of anything. However, if we pay attention to the natural processes of life, we then see how we can align with nature and thus our path becomes more clear.

can you seee this this DOES NOT ADVOCATE MONEY